Oggi è passato all’incontro settimanale Peter Sossi che fa parte dell’associazione sportiva Devin. Mi ha chiesto se vorremmo collaborare o più correttamente se potremmo dargli una mano per realizzare un simulatore di bicicletta. Lo scopo del simulatore sarebbe meramente didattico e per farci pubblicità.
L’idea è di utilizzare una bicicletta a rulli e acquisire i dati della velocità, sterzata del manubrio, freni etc. mediante arduino. I dati letti sarebbero da passare su un PC e via Blender fare il rendering di una città, muovento la camera coerentemente con il movimenti fatti sulla bici a rulli.
Calcolando che la parte meccanica se ne occupa Peter, sarebbe a carico del Mittelab la scrittura del codice per l’acquisizione dei sensori, l’algoritmo per la meccanica del movimento e l’interfacciamento con Blender. Tutti i dettagli sono da definite.
Successivamente discutendo tra di noi, si pensava che si potrebbe eliminare il monitor 2D e utilizzare degli occhiali 3D. @kucukben Fattibile?
Noi stiamo facendo un progetto con occhiali 3D!
Escludendo soluzioni come HTC o Oculus con i caschi da usare in accoppiata con smartphone (15€) si ottiene un risultato discreto, meglio sarebbe con un visore vero ma appunto bisogna valutarne il costo.
Se servisse una mano potrei occuparmi dell’audio che non è da sottovalutare in una buona realtà virtuale. Nel caso ne parliamo lunedì.
Per quanto riguarda la parte video mi sorgono dei dubbi di tipo estetico, ricostruire un ambiente reale in 3d rischia se non fatto ad opera d’arte, di dare quella parvenza di finto, fosse stato per me sarei andato su paesaggi inventati o perché no un bel giro in bicicletta su Marte! IMHO
Grazie per l’interesse dimostrato e per la disponibilità (per l’audio).
La necessità di simulare un ambiente reale, nasce dall’ idea di un progetto sulla sicurezza stradale, che la società alla quale appartengo (SK DEVIN) ha già svolto lo scorso anno, e dato un grande interesse, intende proseguire migliorandolo.
L’idea è quella di coinvolgere i bambini delle scuole elementari con un mezzo il più possibile interattivo, che non perdà però il punto di vista principale: la sicurezza stradale.
Per questo credo che sia necessario quanto meno creare un ambiente simile al mondo urbano anche se finto (graficamente).
Per quanto riguarda il programma da usare pensavo a Blender, perchè online si trova già del materiale che potrebbe aiutarci ad interfacciarlo con Arduino. Unity purtroppo non lo conosco, però se pensate che sia più facile, nessun problema.
Sotto il link di un simulatore simile, costruito da una scuola superiore in Germania: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiVIgMfGhqE
Dopo un po’ di ritardo, abbiamo deciso che la serata dedicata per la presentazione del progetto sarà il mercoledì prossimo 01/02/2017 durante la solita serata aperta al pubblico . A tutti gli interessati si prega di venire con domande e idee.
Un assaggio del progetto potrete sentirlo già all’evento meetup@mittelab del 25/01/2017 .
ping!! any news on the roadmap, literally ?
me & @franco.pellegr will be at mittelab this evening. can we touch base & make some progress on this project? (I’d also be happy to hear what you all think of demoing this project at mittelab’s booth during tmmf.)
From our last chat it appeared to me that the interests were distributed as the following: @kucukben & @franco.pellegr on game engine side, @5er on content, @Telespalla on audio, I cannot remember who was on hardware. Franco and I will be there this evening to work, and of course, anyone else who would like to be a part of it is more than welcome!
I have a problem (a small one).
In order to use HRTF to locate the sound I need to do a convolution between the sound and a buffer (kernel for FIR filter). The problem is that I tried to load the kernels when needed but it’s not fast enough. I think I will need to load all of them in the RAM
So the hard question is, how much space can I allocate for the audio part of the project?
With the best resolution (5° azimuth and 10° elevation) is 6MB.
Hi, in attachment i send a hand-drawed map, now I’m not at home, but this evening I will send a map drawed on sketchup, but not finished yet. I hope it isn’t too complicate.
hi aljaz , hi peter;
this is a tiny gentle mid-week reminder for peter to vote for the git course and aljaz to give peter an account [] peter; can you email me the map of the training town? Doesn’t have to be finished, just whatever you have. tomorrow I will meet Sissa’s director and I could mention him about the project and see what Sissa can do for us. Aljaz, can I talk to the director about Mittelab in this project but also about Mittelab in general? Anything you would advise me to tell/not tell?
many thanks to you both!!
It’s good, not complicated no worries.
But I have a new idea. how about using a part of TS like the following image?
I can confirm that there is at least one round about here although i don’t know many others in the area.
I think it could be cute to have TS in the application, this region or another, for example, where Mittelab is?
Let me know what you think. cheers
It’s good, not complicated no worries.
But I have a new idea. how about using a part of TS like the following image?
I can confirm that there is at least one round about here although i don’t know many others in the area.
I think it could be cute to have TS in the application, this region or another, for example, where Mittelab is?
Let me know what you think. cheers
For now I’m drawing my map in sketchup, I have almost finished. I think is the best way, because I can design the intersections, roundabouts that I want. The reason for this is to put all the possible cases that we meet on the road. Also the most difficult cases, so in this way children will be prepared for cycling on real roads.
However I started drawing an area of TS in 3d, near mittelab.
I studied a couple of cases that have to be triggered:
when the cyclist is coming a car is going reverse out of a garage
(on a roundabout), when the cyclist is coming a couple of cars are crossing the roundabout
a truck is parked on the right side of the road and just behind a car coming out from the right
a few cars are parking long a road and suddenly, when the cyclist is going through, a car door is opening suddenly
(if possible) when the cyclist is moving a car passes on the left side and forces the cyclist to the left
intersection with traffic lights
tramway crossing with barrier lowering
As soon as possible I will locate all these cases on the map.
Are you at mittelab this evening?
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Da: kucukben
Inviato: mercoledì 22 febbraio 2017 13.49
A: peter.yacht@hotmail.it
Oggetto: [Mittelab Talk] [MP]Private msg: 5er git account & talk to sissa director
It’s good, not complicated no worries.
But I have a new idea. how about using a part of TS like the following image?
I can confirm that there is at least one round about here although i don’t know many others in the area.
I think it could be cute to have TS in the application, this region or another, for example, where Mittelab is?
Let me know what you think. cheers
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Da: Peter Sossi
Inviato: lunedì 27 febbraio 2017 18.42
A: kucukben
Oggetto: Re: [Mittelab Talk] [MP]Private msg: 5er git account & talk to sissa director
Hi,
For now I’m drawing my map in sketchup, I have almost finished. I think is the best way, because I can design the intersections, roundabouts that I want. The reason for this is to put all the possible cases that we meet on the road. Also the most difficult cases, so in this way children will be prepared for cycling on real roads.
However I started drawing an area of TS in 3d, near mittelab.
I studied a couple of cases that have to be triggered:
when the cyclist is coming a car is going reverse out of a garage
(on a roundabout), when the cyclist is coming a couple of cars are crossing the roundabout
a truck is parked on the right side of the road and just behind a car coming out from the right
a few cars are parking long a road and suddenly, when the cyclist is going through, a car door is opening suddenly
(if possible) when the cyclist is moving a car passes on the left side and forces the cyclist to the left
intersection with traffic lights
tramway crossing with barrier lowering
As soon as possible I will locate all these cases on the map.
Are you at mittelab this evening?
Da: kucukben talk@mittelab.org
Inviato: mercoledì 22 febbraio 2017 13.49
A: peter.yacht@hotmail.it
Oggetto: [Mittelab Talk] [MP]Private msg: 5er git account & talk to sissa director
It’s good, not complicated no worries.
But I have a new idea. how about using a part of TS like the following image?
I can confirm that there is at least one round about here although i don’t know many others in the area.
I think it could be cute to have TS in the application, this region or another, for example, where Mittelab is?
Let me know what you think. cheers
] peter; can you email me the map of the training town? Doesn’t have to be finished, just whatever you have. tomorrow I will meet Sissa’s director and I could mention him about the project and see what Sissa can do for us. Aljaz, can I talk to the director about Mittelab in this project but also about Mittelab in general? Anything you would advise me to tell/not tell?
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